Inside With Robert Wink—Contract Specialist With USACE and Former FEMA Contracting Officer

Although all agencies have similarities, they are also all unique. Robert Wink, published author and CEO of Integrity Lion Acquisitions, provided us insight on how different working with two agencies can actually be.

Wink is adamant about helping entrepreneurs learn the process and how to do the work in federal contracting quickly, effectively, and without wasting time, Wink opened up about his experiences working with FEMA after a large natural disaster and how the rules are not the same as many of the federal agencies.

 

Robert Wink

BACKGROUND

Wink comes with vast experience working within the government. He retired from the US Army with multiple deployments to Iraq, was a Contracting Officer with FEMA and is currently a Contracting Specialist with the US Army Corps of Engineers.

Wink is also the author of two books: “Small Business Starting Guide to Federal Government Contracts and Searching for Solicitations” and “Secrets to Noncompetitive Government Contracts.”

 

INSIDE WITH ROBERT WINK

 

1. Get familiar with the industry or the agency you are going into Or Working With

From an insider perspective and as a contracting officer, working for FEMA and also the US Army Corps of Engineers, we learn from Wink that they require very different things from their contracting officers and allot their spending very differently. This is important for those wanting to work for the agencies or those looking to work with a specific industry or agency.

“Absolutely, because even at the Army, I was at the Mission Installation Contracting Command and we were very heavy on small businesses. Went to FEMA, man FEMA. That was a … FEMA is a whole different animal when it comes to Contracting. What I mean by that, and I’ll stick with the small business side. When I would bring up, “Hey, what’s our small business goals?” You got that deer in the headlight look… I think in the two years, the couple, and the month… couple weeks I was there, not one time did we ever talk small business goals.”

 

2. Natural Disasters Change The Rules

It’s important to note that rules change. Especially during natural disasters like Hurricane Harvey.

“During your disaster, the disaster have a local area set aside…So during those disasters, those Presidential declared disasters, we were supposed to…and within the first 150 days, we can contract to anybody, because it’s a disaster. It’s a go. But, during that time, we have to start moving and transitioning to local area set asides. So, we have to compete.”

 

3. Contract Specialist and Contract Officers Are Not The Same 

Using the following example, Robert Wink explains how Contracting Specialist are like paralegals. Whereas, Contracting Officers are like lawyers—reviewing, making decisions and even arguing on your behalf to the government.

“I try to explain it the simplest way of explaining it is this way. You have your Attorney, who’s the one that approves everything and can negotiate on behalf of whoever they’re representing. That’s your Attorney. Now, the person that does the leg work and all the hard-core work. I mean, you’ll get into the weeds, and looking at the laws, and policies, and regulation. Even though the Attorney does that, it’s your Paralegals at the end of the day.”

 

4. People Will Sell You Anything If You Let Them

Be aware of companies with a government title in their name to give people the false appearance as though they are representing the government. Then, in very, very small fine print at the bottom, they state, “We are not a Government agency.”

“There’s companies out there that take the same information in my book. I know a couple in Florida. They will charge people anywhere from $400.00 up to $5,000.00 to enroll them in SAM.gov. It’s free, it’s unbelievable… it’s embarrassing…” states Wink.

What you are being charged for, ultimately is free. Be aware.

 

5. State Objectives Differ from Performance Work Statements

“So a Performance Work Statement is a, ‘I need you to complete this. I don’t care how you complete it, but there’s a measurement. So you have to provide this document and you have to perform this type of work. But, we’re going to measure your process along the way.’ What the Statement of Objectives is, ‘Hey, I need you to do janitor work on this five thousand square foot building, two hundred rooms, you tell me how you’re going to do it. You develop those metrics.’”

 

6. Read The Solicitations

Wink advises small businesses, where hiring a lawyer or Consultant to dissect solicitations for you is not an option, to simply read.

“So what I tell everybody to do is, as soon as you see something that you think you can do, read that Performance Work Statement, or that Statement Objective, or the structure. Whatever the Government’s attempting or trying to purchase.”

After reading it, Robert Wink advises asking yourself whether or not you can achieve what they are asking.

Ask yourself, “Can you do it?”

Don’t waste time. You need to know if your set aside can even do it before you spend hours analyzing the solicitation.

 

7. Pricing Is More of An Art Than A Science

Always take into account what the risk is when deciding how you mark up a job. Also, when you’re bidding a job, bid it so that you can make profit for yourself. Don’t worry about what the other person is bidding, because if you try and play and numbers game, they could have missed something, and you could end up costing you money.

“Account for all risks and to make profit. You never go into a project to lose money, unless it’s to keep your business afloat. It’s either not working or taking a little bit of loss just to keep the doors open. And employment. But, that’s a business decision.”

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Take This FREE Government Handout Better than FEMA!

A lot of people are asking me the same question, “Eric, how do I get a contract?” So, to answer these people, take this FREE government handout that is better than FEMA!

THIS IS THE WORLD’S BIGGEST HANDOUT!

The United States federal procurement system is the biggest handout in the world.  There’s no other country in the world that has a procurement system similar to the way ours is run and operated.

“It’s the only program, the only system that I know that will take a one-man or a no name company and turn them into a multimillion dollar organization.”

So, if you’re looking for opportunities in the federal marketplace or you’re interested in doing federal procurement, then take advantage of this opportunity to provide products and services to the government. 

Besides, the systems are already in place and designed to help you succeed. The government doesn’t want you to fail. They want a win-win-win for everybody: the contractor, the company, the entity… everyone.

JUST PICK UP THE PHONE!

Still, you need to consider that you still need to be involved in the process. You need to do the work in order to succeed in this marketplace. 

The things that you need to do include looking where the opportunities are, finding out who or what company has contracts, and start calling these people. It’s just as easy as that.

The truth is, these companies need people like you to fulfill different contracts. They can’t do all of the work alone. This is why we have subcontracting, consulting, and teaming

You can start out by being a subcontractor and by providing something of value to the person or the prime who’s actually servicing the specific government agency. You can do this by just finding out who has the contract that you are looking at and giving them a call. 

You can say this statement, like, “Hey, listen, Jack. My name is Eric. I’m calling from Evankoff Construction. Listen, congratulations. I see you just won the contract award. I want to congratulate you, but let me tell you a little about my company. Do you have a minute?”

“They’re always looking for one more better supplier, one more better subcontractor.”

Now, guess what happens once you do that and you start talking to people? You become a subcontractor and because of that, you can have a past performance and a professional reference for the work that you performed. You can use that stuff in the future once you are ready to become a prime contractor.

HERE’S A STORY FOR YOU!

I actually have a couple of friends of mine that do drywall, but they’re broke. They’re not successful. They’re like handymen. They’re just getting by and scraping by. 

Then, I also know a prime that does a 100 million a year and they have a job that’s $17 million. Now, they’re even looking for a drywall company to do around 1 to 2 million dollars worth of drywall work.

So, why is it that this guy is not doing well in his business when there’s this million dollar opportunity in place and there’s no one to do it? This just doesn’t add up. 

“You can’t make the connection if you don’t reach out to the person and call them. You’re not going to be able to find that opportunity and they’re not going to be able to find you because no one’s talking.”

Besides, who needs the money more? My friend with a drywall business does. And in this case, you too. You’re the person on the other side that needs these contracts. So, call these people.

“You need to call them and say, ‘Hey, listen. I’m your guy. Whatever opportunities that you have in my field, please, let me know. Give me a shot. Give me a chance. Let me try. Try me out for a moment and see what I can do.’”

Now, that’s the handout right there. Once you start calling people, you’ll start building your history and past performance and you’ll continue to gain more opportunities. That’s what I’ve been doing and that’s what I continue to do.

RESOURCES

Forget about FEMA. Forget about food stamps. Forget about certifications. Remember, you already have the opportunity. You just have to do the necessary steps to take action in order to make it happen for yourself, for your company, and for your family. 

With this in mind, if you want to be part of a community who wants to succeed in life in terms of doing business with the government, then join us here at GovCon Giants.

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Free Government Handout, better than FEMA!

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Your Certifications DON’T Mean ANYTHING!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwyZwq_D4O0

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